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KR 10/24/2017 Class Popularity & DPS Ranking (CDN)

Dec 12
- Fabulous

I’m working on transferring all of my translations to Divinitor. Developer K released DPS rankings for CDN a while back.

Please remember that tier lists are stupid and that neither Fabulous nor Vahr endorse the usage of tier lists. This is here for completeness and translation as well as an insight on EYEDENTITY. Take this list with a grain of salt because their methods are bad anyway.

11/24/2017 DPS

Developer K’s Diary

Special Thanks

  • Gale for translating the first list, the popularity ranking.
  • Smiling for translating the second list and helping me with some of the more complicated phrases.

Data Collection Details

Date Range: October 1, 2017 to October 19, 2017 (correlates with patch 95.4)

Target Version: CDN

Amount of aggregate data: approximately 150,000 (1 partition)

Target Content: Level 95 nests, excluding 8-man Hardcore content.

I checked the data personally and 8-man dragon nests are missing. It is too late to redo the study, but I do not think there is much of a difference.

Why is the popularity ranking in CDN different from KDN’s?

They have different preferences. CDN loves Swordsman. There are some outliers, but overall, the data does not differ much from KDN’s. I will upload KDN’s when it is ready.

Please take note of the timeframe for the data collection.

CDN is about two months behind KDN. Please note that some updates were not available to them during this timeframe, including Soul Eater’s and the Lencea Awakening.
Translation Note: As such, CDN was missing updates for Mercenary, Acrobat, Silver Hunter, Priest, Ray Mechanic (Singularity), Screamer, Oracle Elder, Reaper, Raven (Chain Punisher, Crow Storm, Guillotine Cross, Star Combination), Lencea, and heals.

I will continue to update the data, as I think it will prove useful in the long run.

Popularity Ranking

We have ranked class popularity using data from 150,000 dungeon runs.

I want to discuss the details. First, when we look at the rankings…

In general, if the class performs well, it will be popular. If the class performs poorly, it will be unpopular.

I am sorry that I have been unable to balance the classes better, since popularity is apparently affected by performance.

Criteria for Balance Ranking

As you might know already, when you clear a dungeon, all buffs are wiped and the game automatically saves your DPS.

Users were grouped by their damage range, and we have summarized the ranking of the users with the highest DPS classes in each group.

I think we should target the average among the groups (400k, 500k, 600k, all characters, overall average) to understand the classes better.

Don’t just look at DPS

Indeed, I did not deliberately categorize the classes as such.

The goal is not to simply rank the classes, but also to look at the details.

After hearing the general consensus regarding class balance, I want to increase people’s faith in our balancing patches.

As you can see, this kind of classification will guide class balancing in the right direction.

(Anyways, weak characters are weak regardless of how we classify them.)

Why aren’t we averaging by group? Why aren’t we taking the best DPS?

People play classes differently, so there is noise in the data when we try to average it.

If you look at the overall average, Ray Mechanic drops from 1st place to 12th place. There were a lot of newer players who brought the average down.

I will continue to monitor the situation and listen to your opinions, and if there is a better way of classification, I will modify it.

Will you balance the classes?

First, it is good to look at the classes first when you see the balancing notes (how difficult they are to play).

While equality between classes is important, gameplay experience and improvement of skill usability are also important.

The DPS rankings here will be useful to see how balanced the classes are, and we will listen to your opinions on how skill usability has improved.

The Company’s Concerns

When we release the DPS rankings, various opinions surface, there will be communication clashes as people try to confirm the classes’ situations.

Perhaps the main reason that game companies do not release DPS data is because of concerns about the ruckus it would cause.

Regardless of the current balancing situation, all of you are entitled to complain about your character. Even though you might have different opinions, please respect your opponent.

Developer K’s Statement

I hope that being transparent with the data does not end up as rumors and gossip.

It is up to you whether this conversation ends as gossip or lasts a long time and serves as a basis for improvement.

I am thankful for you guys who still play this old game with love, despite its forgotten status in Korea.

List Translations

Please remember that tier lists are stupid and that neither Fabulous nor Vahr endorse the usage of tier lists. This is here for completeness and translation as well as an insight on EYEDENTITY. Take this list with a grain of salt because their methods are bad anyway.

Popularity Ranking for October

  1. Lunar Knight
  2. Inquisitor
  3. Gladiator
  4. Adept
  5. Raven
  6. Crusader
  7. Pyromancer
  8. Ray Mechanic
  9. Warden
  10. Dark Avenger
  11. Dragoon
  12. Destroyer
  13. Physician
  14. Ice Witch
  15. Oracle Elder
  16. Windwalker
  17. Black Mara
  18. Defensio
  19. Tempest
  20. War Mage
  21. Abyss Walker
  22. Spirit Dancer
  23. Sniper
  24. Gear Master
  25. Light Bringer
  26. Reaper
  27. Silver Hunter
  28. Guardian
  29. Arch Heretic
  30. Barbarian
  31. Shooting Star
  32. Soul Eater
  33. Chaos Mage
  34. Valkyrie
  35. Blade Dancer
  36. Saint
  37. Dark Summoner
  38. Ruina

400k Damage Range

  1. Warden
  2. Dragoon
  3. Crusader
  4. Inquisitor
  5. Gladiator
  6. Lunar Knight
  7. Dark Avenger
  8. Ray Mechanic
  9. Adept
  10. Raven
  11. Black Mara
  12. Reaper
  13. Abyss Walker
  14. Pyromancer
  15. Defensio
  16. Tempest
  17. Arch Heretic
  18. Windwalker
  19. Destroyer
  20. Oracle Elder
  21. Dark Summoner
  22. Ice Witch
  23. Silver Hunter
  24. Shooting Star
  25. Sniper
  26. Gear Master
  27. Guardian
  28. War Mage
  29. Barbarian
  30. Light Bringer
  31. Spirit Dancer
  32. Chaos Mage
  33. Physician
  34. Blade Dancer
  35. Soul Eater
  36. Valkyrie
  37. Saint
  38. Ruina

500k Damage Range

  1. Abyss Walker
  2. Ray Mechanic
  3. Warden
  4. Inquisitor
  5. Pyromancer
  6. Raven
  7. Gladiator
  8. Crusader
  9. Dark Avenger
  10. Adept
  11. Lunar Knight
  12. Tempest
  13. Defensio
  14. Black Mara
  15. Oracle Elder
  16. Guardian
  17. Destroyer
  18. Reaper
  19. Dragoon
  20. Saint
  21. Windwalker
  22. Spirit Dancer
  23. Blade Dancer
  24. Shooting Star
  25. Physician
  26. Light Bringer
  27. Soul Eater
  28. Ice Witch
  29. Silver Hunter
  30. Chaos Mage
  31. War Mage
  32. Sniper
  33. Dark Summoner
  34. Barbarian
  35. Arch Heretic
  36. Gear Master
  37. Valkyrie
  38. Ruina

600k Damage Range

  1. Ray Mechanic
  2. Abyss Walker
  3. Warden
  4. Inquisitor
  5. Gladiator
  6. Adept
  7. Raven
  8. Pyromancer
  9. Dark Avenger
  10. Lunar Knight
  11. Crusader
  12. Defensio
  13. Spirit Dancer
  14. Chaos Mage
  15. War Mage
  16. Tempest
  17. Dragoon
  18. Destroyer
  19. Black Mara
  20. Arch Heretic
  21. Reaper
  22. Windwalker
  23. Oracle Elder
  24. Barbarian
  25. Light Bringer
  26. Ice Witch
  27. Soul Eater
  28. Valkyrie
  29. Gear Master
  30. Guardian
  31. Sniper
  32. Silver Hunter
  33. Physician
  34. Saint
  35. Blade Dancer
  36. Shooting Star
  37. Dark Summoner
  38. Ruina

All Characters

  1. Ray Mechanic
  2. Abyss Walker
  3. Warden
  4. Inquisitor
  5. Gladiator
  6. Adept
  7. Raven
  8. Pyromancer
  9. Dark Avenger
  10. Lunar Knight
  11. Crusader
  12. Defensio
  13. Spirit Dancer
  14. Chaos Mage
  15. War Mage
  16. Tempest
  17. Dragoon
  18. Destroyer
  19. Black Mara
  20. Arch Heretic
  21. Reaper
  22. Windwalker
  23. Oracle Elder
  24. Barbarian
  25. Light Bringer
  26. Ice Witch
  27. Soul Eater
  28. Valkyrie
  29. Gear Master
  30. Guardian
  31. Sniper
  32. Silver Hunter
  33. Physician
  34. Saint
  35. Blade Dancer
  36. Shooting Star
  37. Dark Summoner
  38. Ruina

Overall Average

  1. Spirit Dancer
  2. Abyss Walker
  3. Chaos Mage
  4. Pyromancer
  5. Warden
  6. Crusader
  7. War Mage
  8. Inquisitor
  9. Adept
  10. Defensio
  11. Dark Avenger
  12. Ray Mechanic
  13. Lunar Knight
  14. Black Mara
  15. Raven
  16. Arch Heretic
  17. Gladiator
  18. Tempest
  19. Dragoon
  20. Windwalker
  21. Reaper
  22. Destroyer
  23. Light Bringer
  24. Barbarian
  25. Soul Eater
  26. Dark Summoner
  27. Saint
  28. Guardian
  29. Silver Hunter
  30. Sniper
  31. Ice Witch
  32. Blade Dancer
  33. Valkyrie
  34. Shooting Star
  35. Oracle Elder
  36. Gear Master
  37. Physician
  38. Ruina
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